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  moldbody   2018-02-02

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新千年之后,诞生于80年代的激流金属在全世界复兴,各地涌现优秀年轻乐队,并影响大量年轻乐迷加入阵营。中国亦不例外,肿瘤男孩(TUMOURBOY)乐队就是这样的一群对传统金属充满了热情的年轻发烧友,他们也是目前中国激流金属的乐迷最关注的新锐力量之一。

Since the turn of the millennium, the sound of 80s Thrash Metal has been brought back all over the world. A front of young bands spring up and affect a number of young fans into thrash metal scene. No exception in China, TUMOURBOY (肿瘤男孩)is one of them who is passionate of traditional metal. They also attracted more attention as the new force of thrash in China.

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肿瘤男孩乐队于2014年正式成立并迅速成长,2016年发表首张专辑《崩坏的系统》。2017年他们签约至专门扶植传统金属风格厂牌 ADP旗下,发行EP《Fatal Extermination》。全新专辑《毁灭宣告》于2018年1月20日开始发行。创作风格上激流的根源性,旋律性,攻击性融合为一体,是一张标志着新一代中国激流金属乐队向国际化迈进的唱片。

TUMOURBOY formed in 2014 and grow up fast. They released their debut Damaged System(崩坏的系统) in 2016. They signed to AreaDeath Productions in 2017 and later released EP Fatal Extermination. The new album Condemned to Extinction(毁灭宣告) which has released on January 20 2018 marks an integration into the world of a new generation of Chinese thrash metal bands.

在新专辑发行即将发行之际,我们和乐队核心吉他手兼主唱曲佳树聊一聊近况。

We interviewed Qu Jiashu, guitarist and vocalist of the band before the release.

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新千年之后,诞生于80年代的激流金属在全世界复兴,各地涌现优秀年轻乐队,并影响大量年轻乐迷加入阵营。中国亦不例外,肿瘤男孩(TUMOURBOY)乐队就是这样的一群对传统金属充满了热情的年轻发烧友,他们也是目前中国激流金属的乐迷最关注的新锐力量之一。

Since the turn of the millennium, the sound of 80s Thrash Metal has been brought back all over the world. A front of young bands spring up and affect a number of young fans into thrash metal scene. No exception in China, TUMOURBOY (肿瘤男孩)is one of them who is passionate of traditional metal. They also attracted more attention as the new force of thrash in China.

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肿瘤男孩乐队于2014年正式成立并迅速成长,2016年发表首张专辑《崩坏的系统》。2017年他们签约至专门扶植传统金属风格厂牌 ADP旗下,发行EP《Fatal Extermination》。全新专辑《毁灭宣告》于2018年1月20日开始发行。创作风格上激流的根源性,旋律性,攻击性融合为一体,是一张标志着新一代中国激流金属乐队向国际化迈进的唱片。

TUMOURBOY formed in 2014 and grow up fast. They released their debut Damaged System(崩坏的系统) in 2016. They signed to AreaDeath Productions in 2017 and later released EP Fatal Extermination. The new album Condemned to Extinction(毁灭宣告) which has released on January 20 2018 marks an integration into the world of a new generation of Chinese thrash metal bands.

在新专辑发行即将发行之际,我们和乐队核心吉他手兼主唱曲佳树聊一聊近况。

We interviewed Qu Jiashu, guitarist and vocalist of the band before the release.

肿瘤男孩(TUMOURBOY) 乐队具体是什么时候正式成立的?为什么要叫这样一个古怪的名字?
When was TUMOURBOY formed? How did you guys come up with this weird name?

曲:2014年的10月份。我和贝斯手郭博文其实从2013年的时候就开始排练了,那时候我们很想弹一些速度快的歌,开始是翻弹 METALLICA、TRIVIUM、SLAYER、SEPULTURA 等乐队的经典作品。乐队名字是郭博文和当时的吉他手小梁想出来的,来自一个游戏上古卷轴。

Qu: We formed on October 2014. Me and bassist Guo Bowen have actually rehearsed since 2013, that time we wanted to play some fast songs. We started out playing covers of METALLICA, TRIVIUM, SLAYER, SEPULTURA… Guo bowen and guitarist Liang get the band name, it’s a game The Elder Scrolls (上古卷轴)behind this name.

“肿瘤”在某些网站是禁用词汇,可能和很多乐队面临的问题一样,起名字的时候没有考虑传播问题。你们是否有考虑过用代号来代替,好像很多中国摇滚乐队那样缩写,比如可以改叫“肿男”,或者“种男”?
“Tumour” is a forbidden word in some websites( in China). Is it possible that you didn’t think more about the diffuse in the future when you named it? Did you ever consider the replace of name with some codes such as abbreviation like many Chinese Rock bands? For example: T.B., or Stallion(different Chinese characters of the same pronunciation)?

曲:起名的时候并没有考虑太多,反正是个名字呗。对,淘宝上甚至不让使用肿瘤这个词,朋友也和我们说过要不要换个名字,但是我一想为什么当初选择的要放弃呢,不把它坚持下去呢?(注:肿瘤男孩新专辑相关商品请在淘宝搜索“ADP081”,以便准确定位。)

Qu: We didn ‘t think about this, it’s just a name. Yeah, Tumour cannot be used in Taobao ( e-commerce site), some friends also told us to change another name, but why we give it up since we chose it at the beginning?

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给我们介绍一下参与录制专辑的几位成员吧。
Tell us about the lineup during recording.

曲:我是吉他手兼主唱;吉他手杨富文,他也在祖先和 DRESSED TO KILL 弹琴,做事很细心;鼓手张亦弛,同时也在 DRESSED TO KILL,清华大学在校生,学霸风范,大哥气质;贝斯手张百兴,还参与D-CRASH乐队 ,闷骚。

Qu: me, guitarist and vocalist. Guitarist Yang Fuwen who does things carefully also plays in ANCESTOR(祖先,thrash metal) and DRESSED TO KILL(heavy metal). Drummer Zhang Yichi who also plays in DRESSED TO KILL is a graduate student in Tsinghua. He is a curve wrecker and like a big brother. Bassist Zhang Baixing who plays in D-CRASH(punk)is mild on the outside but wild on the inside.

你们都是90后一代,有的是刚毕业的学生,有的是北漂一族,有的甚至还没有毕业,你们的重金属音乐理想与事业是否受到了来自家庭压力和自身生活条件的限制?
You are the 90s generation. Some of you just graduated, some are Beijing drifters, and some are still at school. Is your metal dream or career been obstructed by your family or your life condition?

曲:反正暂时还撑得过去,之后的事就再说呗,希望大家都能努力,投入的热情再大点。我们的鼓手还有吉他手前景都比较好,他们快临近毕业了,如果工作需要他们可能会投入到工作当中,但我相信他们会对重金属热爱一辈子的。父母还是挺支持我们玩乐队的,虽然我爸还是想让我玩古典乐,想让我从事音乐治疗或者钢琴演奏,那种传统意义的音乐。不过我觉得那只是些老掉牙的东西。
Qu: It’s OK for now, we’ll see. I hope all of us will work hard and put more enthusiastic into the band. Our drummer and guitarist have better future. They will graduate soon. They might focus on their job but I still believe they will love metal forever. All of our parents support our band, although my dad wants me to play classic. He hopes me to work on music therapy or as pianist, you know, that kind of traditional music job. But I think they are out of date.

这张专辑主要想表达些什么?有没有什么歌曲,或者歌词有特别的用意?
What does this album express? Are there any songs or lyrics with special meanings?

曲:这张专辑描写了世界毁灭的灾难,有世界的灾难也有身边的。我们现在身处的时代就是最好的题材了,比如当中的木吉他 After Earthquake 是看电视时,脑海中浮现出当时去看汶川地震废墟的景象,为什么不写出来呢?还有 Kiss My Ass 是很好玩的一首歌,讲的是喝多了和一个女孩睡觉之后,她把我身上所有的东西偷走了的事。

Qu: This is a disaster album which about global destruction and personal destruction. Our age is the best theme. For example, acoustic guitar instrumental song After Earthquake is influenced by television pictures of the ruins of Wenchuan earthquake. Kiss My Ass is a funny song which talks about one time I was stolen by a girl after one night stands.

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张百兴在录音棚中补充酒精
Zhang Baixing is charging with alcohol in the recording studio

新专辑《毁灭宣告》制作过程是怎么样的?新专辑比之前的作品有那些提高和进步?
How about production process of the new album? Are there some improvements and progress compared the earlier stuffs?

曲:前期大约是三个月,每个周末我们都没有休息,全部用来录音。录完了小样之后反复修改。录完后对里面的一些编排并不是很满意,于是就又修改,有过很多版本。比起上张专辑,吉他参数有略微的变化。这次录音全部用箱头录的,不是软效果器。录制还使用了传统话筒的拾音,以及真鼓的录音。张亦弛花了两个周末录完了14首歌,感觉还挺快的。

Qu: Early production spent around three months. We recorded every weekend nonstop. But after recording, we kept editing the songs because we’re actually unsatisfied with some parts of composing. So there are many versions after several times of editing. Compared with last album, parameters of guitar changed a bit. This time all recording was using an amplifier head not by an effector plugin. We also used mic-based pickups and real drums. Zhang finished drum parts in two weeks, that is fast.

后期的话多亏了刘佳仁老师细心的工作态度。时间比计划放慢了一个月,除了之前的修改,还有就是刘老师的工作认真态度。最终版本发给我们之后,一点都没有修改,所有的成员全部满意。配器方面我们加入了合成器和木吉他,也加入了少许现代金属的和弦和编排,不规则小节和变拍。我也喜欢 RAZOR,但是我不想一直活在80年代的阴影下,我们只想做自己想做的音乐。

We are grateful for the attitude of Mr. Liu Jiaren jin the Post-production process. Because of the editing, the recording was one month delayed, but Mr. Liu was really patient. When we get the final version, everything is totally fine, all of us are satisfied. We use synthesizer and acoustic guitar as other instruments. We also corporate with few modern metal riffs and arrangements, irregular section and beats changed. I’m also into RAZOR, but I don’t wanna live under the shadow of 80s. We just want to do the music we want.

在制作上(包括录音,后期以及周边设计)你们给自己设定了什么样的标准?前期可能要自己投入很多的资金和时间精力,你们对自己音乐有信心吗?
What is the standard of the production you need including recording, pro-production and merchandise? You may need to invest a lot of money, time and energy, do you guys have confidence with your music?

曲:关于这张专辑的制作,所有细节我们和制作人都是提前沟通好的。包括前期的话筒选择以及我们的要求。其实也没有多少信心,就是做一件事得认真吧。回看这两年,传统的激流金属已经不是大众所喜欢的风格,越来越多的 Blackend Speed(黑暗速度风格)更是大家追求的,难道我们能跟风换风格吗?不能所有的人都去玩地下的新浪潮吧或者更地下的风格吧?还有EPICA级别制作费60万人民币的呢,我们达不到,也写不出来那种级别的歌,只能在自己的范围内做好就好了。

Qu: About the production of this album, we communicated our producer with every detail including the choice of mic and our other requirements. In fact, we don’t have a lot of confidence. We just do one thing seriously. Taking a look back over the last two years, traditional thrash metal is not a popular genre. Bands seek more and more Blackend Speed metal. Should we follow the trend to change our style? Is it possible that all of bands would play new wave or more underground style? How about some bands like EPICA spend 600 million on production? That’s not us. We couldn’t write songs on that level either, so what we can do is do our best as  possible.

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参与录制的部分朋友
Some of our friends during our recording

听说你们还邀请了很多乐迷朋友一起参与了录制?请给我们介绍一下这首歌?会收录在这张专辑里面吗?
I’m heard you also invited many fans to join the recording? Introduce us this song. Is it in this album?

曲:这张专辑所有的合唱部分全是我们和朋友一块录制的大概有十多个人吧,当时是我发的朋友圈问有没有人愿意来和我们一块完成,之后就有好多人加入进来。花了2个多小时,反正就是“喊”呗,就把所有的合唱部分完成了。

Qu: All chorus in this album is sang by us and friends, on total around ten. I posted in Moments (Circle of friends) to ask if there were anybody who wants to join us, then many people responded. The whole recording process spent over 2 hours. It finished by repeating screaming.

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泰国曼谷演出海报以及门票
Poster and tickets of concert in Bangkok

2017年乐队演出挺频繁,给我们讲讲你们今年最有趣的一个演出经历吧?
Your band toured a lot in 2017. Tell us some funny experience during your touring.

曲:2017年我们去了曼谷,Headline 是我们和日本的 TERROR SQUAD 乐队。他们的音乐真的很厉害,你听过把日本的 Fusion 和弦用到 Thrash 里面吗?他们就敢,现场虽然才去了100多个人,但是歌迷很纯粹。有个哥们身上带了个塑料箱子,里面装的牙刷和毛巾然后他们说他每天就睡在路边,但是特喜欢重金属。演出时在第一排一顿疯狂甩头,之后还给我了一个他自己的胸章,我一直放在琴包里。

Qu: We went to Bangkok in 2017. The headline was us and TERROR SQUAD from Japan. Their music is really awesome. Have you ever heard Japanese Fusion chords added to Thrash? They did, although there were only over 100 audiences. One guy carried a plastic box with toothbrush and towels inside. He told them he slept on the street every day but loves heavy metal very much. During the show, he was always headbanging on the first line. After the show he gave me a pin he made. I still put it in my guitar bag.

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目前在中国金属圈,你们这样的年轻乐队要想发展,你觉得最欠缺什么,优势是什么?对未来怎么看?
Currently in China metal scene, if young bands like you want to develop, what do you need the most? What is your advantage? How do you look forward to the future?

曲:需要沉的下心去学习一些东西和琢磨新的东西,沉得下心去练琴、练鼓,才能做出自己的风格。我不太理解一些人盲目抵触新的专辑。首先你仔细听过吗?许多国外的乐手12、13岁就开始玩乐队了,而且都小有名气那种。任何一个乐队的成功都不是偶然的,例如 ENFORCER。年轻的乐队没有比他们的风格再成功的吧?主唱15岁就开始玩 Thrash,并发了三张专辑。还有 HAVOK 乐队,他们都是从15、16岁开始玩乐队的。当然,都需要专业的推广团队来去帮助他们。作为中国金属音乐人,真的优势太大了。我在国外几乎很少看到有年轻的金属党了,中国还有很多年轻的人在听金属、喜欢金属。而且中国人口众多,我相信重金属在中国发展会越来越好的。

Qu: You need to concentrate to study, to research new things. You have to get our head down and just practicing. Then you could make your own style. I don’t understand why some people are really resistant to new records. First of all, have you already listened to it? Many foreign musicians have played in bands since 12 or 13 years old. They became famous since then. It’s not by chance to be successful such as ENFORCER. Young bands could not be more successful than them. Their vocalist played Thrash when he was 15. They released three albums. And HAVOK, they played bands since 15 or 16 years old. For sure, they need professional promotional team to help them.
As Chinese metal musicians, we have more advantages. I rarely see young metalheads oversea now, but in China there are many young people who listen to metal, love metal music. And we have so many populations. I believe heavy metal will develop very well in China.

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不管走到哪里,都要去唱片店转转
Wherever I go, I always go to record shops

很多年轻的乐迷已经不太在乎实体音乐的存在与否。作为90后一代乐手,你们推出了自己的实体唱片,这里你们想对更年轻的朋友说些什么?
Many young fans have already not been careful for the physical of the music. As 90’s band members, you released your own physical records. What do you want to tell the younger fans?

曲:这个看个人的习惯呗。有的人可能不买CD,但是会买衣服之类的。每个月我都会买很多地下金属和朋克的专辑CD,还是个人习惯吧。我上高中的时候同学也都是用手机听Mp3,但是我还是喜欢去买实体唱片。所以还是选择自己喜欢的方式,也不要强迫自己,看别人买自己也要买对吧。

Qu: It depends on the personal habits. Some people might not buy CDs, but they buy clothes. Each month I’ll buy a lot underground metal and punk CDs. When I was in high school, all of my classmates listen to Mp3 with cellphone, but I still like to buy physical records. So to choose the way one likes, I will not force myself to buy something others want to buy, right?


你们的贝斯手是来自于一支朋克乐队,你们的音乐概念中,都有些许的朋克成分。对金属与朋克的融合你怎么看?
Your bassist is from a punk band. In your music concept, there are always some punk elements. How’s your opinion about the mix of metal and punk?

曲:我们主张以朋克的态度来做金属乐,比如我最近在练习 VEKTOR 的歌,发现他们在一些段落也喜欢加入朋克的切分节奏。所以我相信,除了那些喜欢从头到尾千篇一律的节奏的乐迷,朋克也都会喜欢重金属这种音乐的。我最近在听 MDC 同名专辑(Millions of Dead Cops)和 BAD BRAINS 的 Rock for Light,意外发现这两张也是科特柯本(Kurt Cobain)最喜欢的50张专辑之中的。朋克的巨大能量正是我们做金属乐需要的。

Qu: We stand firmly for using punk attitude to make metal music such us I’m practicing songs of VEKTOR recently. I found they also like to put some syncopated rhythms like punk. So I believe punks will also like some kind of metal music except some fans they listen to one kind of rhythms all time. Lately I’m listening to MDC’s album of the same name, Millions of Dead Cops and Rock for Light by BAD BRAINS. I find these two albums are also one of Kurt Cobain’s 50 favorite albums by accidently. The huge energy of punk is what we need to make metal music.

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肿瘤男孩乐队新专辑推出以后会有什么宣传活动?
What kind of promotions after the issue of new album?

曲:我们会做一系列的外地的巡演,目前计划中的城市会有上海、杭州、温州、昆明、重庆、成都、兰州、宁夏、西安、石家庄等。

Qu: We gonna do tours out of Beijing. We plan to go to Shanghai, Hangzhou, Wenzhou, Kunming, Chongqing, Chengdu, Lanzhou, Ningxia, Xian, Shijiazhuang, etc.

 
谈一谈你们即将出发的德国巡演吧,有什么期待?
Talk about the upcoming Germany tour. What’s to expect?

曲:很期待德国的Taunus音乐节,然后就是为期一周的巡演。没想到这么快就能和德国的乐队一块演出了!然后我们就想去德国去吃好吃的香肠,还有啤酒,当然还得放松,去欧洲最大的红灯区转转。同时我也很期待 STALLION、SPACE CHASER、DIVISION SPEED 的演出。

Qu: I expect a lot on Taunus festival in Germany. Then it is the tour during one week. I couldn’t imagine how fast we can play shows with Germany bands! And we also want to taste sausages, beer, and relax. I mean we will hang out to the biggest red light district in Europe. At the same time I also expect live shows of STALLION, SPACE CHASER, DIVISION SPEED.

If by your choice, who do you expect the most to play a show together?
如果可以选择,你们最期待和谁一起同台演出?

Qu: My best wish is to play with MOTORHEAD! But it is impossible. I will take his music with me for my whole life. Until the end of this interview, I’m told that Fast Eddie Clarke passed away. I hope three members of MOTORHEAD could make more noisy, faster rock n’ roll in the heaven.

曲:我最希望能和摩托头站在一块演出!但是这是肯定不可能了,我会把他的音乐带到我的生命中一辈子。截稿这天,刚刚听闻摩托头的前五张的吉他手高速艾迪克拉克(Fast Eddie Clarke)去世了,希望他们三个在天堂相聚做出更吵更快的的摇滚乐。


说说对2018年的祝福和期待吧!
Tell us your blessings and expectations for 2018!

曲:祝大家开心,过个好年,ADP唱片越来越牛逼,中国乐队越来越牛逼,中国金属闹特带。

Qu: Wish you all happy. Have a good year. ADP is more Niubi. Chinese Bands are more Niubi, China metal will not die.

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